Jacob Booher
May 12, 2022, 2:56:57 PM
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Hi Neighbors,
I just booted two suspicious persons from Dawn and Dan’s property here on Riverside County Playground Road. They suspiciously approached the house, scoped out the yard then started testing doors. I approached and asked whether they were there by permission of the owners. They of course said yes. I then asked them who the owners were. They deflected my question, simply saying they were looking for their “rental.” They claimed the rental had high ceilings so they thought Dawn and Dan’s place was it. That was clearly a bad, off-the-cuff lie. I told them the house wasn’t their rental and that their rental, if there was in fact a high-ceilinged rental they were looking for, was not on this street. I escorted them off Dan and Dawn’s property and they each left in seperate directions.
Suspicious person 1: white woman with platinum long blonde hair appearing to be in her late 50s wearing jean shorts or skirt and a long-sleeve black print shirt.
Suspicious person 2: white man with brown hair and a bear in late 20s or early 30s wearing pants and a plaid hooded jacket carrying a skateboard.
Keep an eye out for them. They might be scoping out other properties in the area.
Sincerely,
Jacob
Dan Papaila
May 12, 2022, 3:28:06 PM
Thanks Jacob!
Dan & Dawn Papaila
Byron Grams
May 12, 2022, 3:58:30 PM
Nice job
Thanks for keep an eye out.
Odd that they left in different directions.
B
jasrhume
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May 12, 2022, 6:16:09 PM
thanks Jacob,
well done.
We are usually at home and have a better view of yours and the Byron/Paula and Brian/Stacy properties. We’ll keep looking, too.
be well,
Charlotte and Jameson
kathystyles01
May 12, 2022, 6:47:50 PM
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Kudos Jacob. My vacation rental, last house on the left just before park entrance, is currently occupied for a few days and we maintain security cameras at 2 entrances, but much appreciate the extra eyes on the place. This kind of creepy stuff seems to be on the rise. Thanks for your vigilance.
Regards,
Kathy
Dawn Papaila
May 15, 2022, 9:25:16 PM
Dear Neighbors,
I posted the descriptions of the two people who Jacob escorted off our property on the Idyllwild Crime Watch group. The woman identified herself. See images of her posts below.
I’m not going to reply to her and may remove my post from that group. I’m going to sleep on this decision.
I absolutely puzzled by her reply. First that she identified herself. Secondly that she thinks I owe her an apology. Very strange.
Dan did have our front steps blocked with saw horses since he had stained the steps. We did hear that they were seen on Lower Pinecrest. Perhaps they found the house that needed painting and got the gig. But still something very creepy about this.
kathystyles01
May 16, 2022, 7:05:25 AM
That’s a tough one, Dawn. I think I’d just “not engage” too, as she seems to be overly defensive of behavior that really anyone would find suspicious. Seriously–no name, no phone number, wrong address, and a skate board instead of painting tools? They deserved to be questioned and asked to leave and should be offering apologies themselves. As you said–pretty weird.
Thanks,
Kathy
Jacob Booher
May 16, 2022, 8:31:11 AM
I don’t buy it.Their current story doesn’t comport with the story they told me that day.
Nor does it explain their behavior.
I wouldn’t engage though. There’s not much to gain from it. There’s no crime to prove or damages to be rectified. We stopped potential trouble before it materialized into something real and put the potential trouble-doers on notice that we as a group of neighbors are looking out for each other. Acute and systemic deterrence accomplished.
Dawn Papaila
May 16, 2022, 9:16:21 AM
Adding my post here to make this record complete.
Dear Neighbors,
I posted the descriptions of the two people who Jacob escorted off our property on the Idyllwild Crime Watch group. The woman identified herself. See images of her posts below.
I’m not going to reply to her and may remove my post from that group. I’m going to sleep on this decision.
I absolutely puzzled by her reply. First that she identified herself. Secondly that she thinks I owe her an apology. Very strange.
Dan did have our front steps blocked with saw horses since he had stained the steps. We did hear that they were seen on Lower Pinecrest. Perhaps they found the house that needed painting and got the gig. But still something very creepy about this.
Dawn Papaila
Dawn Papaila
May 16, 2022, 9:25:53 AM
Hi Neighbors,
I want to thank Jacob again. He did the right thing and exactly what we would do if the situation were reversed. And we don’t buy her story either.
This person is obviously troubled and it is odd that she identified herself. She’s now using FB Messenger to reach me (I don’t use Messenger and wish to heck I could totally turn it off with a message that tells people that I don’t use it). She also has cruised my FB “wall.” Most posts are private and I just flipped the few that were public to private.
I may remove the Crime Watch post since it has been seen by many already. I’m not going to engage even though I want to tell her that I’m not anti-skateboard and that I have nothing to apologize for and that if she has lived here 20 years (and I’ve been told that she has and perhaps recently has been living in the park), then she knows the difference between Lower Pine Crest and County Park Rd. But I have had a lot of experience with people who are “a bubble off plumb” and know that there is no point in trying to reason with them when their victim mentality is in control.
We should probably consider a camera system on this property. That’s a discussion that I’ll have to have with Dan. 🙂
So thankful for our Neighborhood Watch Group!
Dawn
Genevieve Alvarado
May 16, 2022, 9:36:38 AM
Whao this developed 😂
Ezekiel n I also very skeptical of a few red flags:
1. ‘Renting’ an Airbnb in your own community with a young buck
2. Changing that story into a painting gig
3. Statements from only half of the offending party
4. disappearances / wellness checks for her on social media (benders)
5. Thinking ignorance makes trespassing okay
6. Splitting up when confronted
May be worth finding this ‘painting’ gig.. If it didn’t exist on lower pinecrest then chances are their actions were indeed unsavory / worth an official report
John Jacobs
May 16, 2022, 10:05:17 AM
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So much sketchiness in all of this, it’s hard to list it all. A look at this woman’s Facebook profile is worthwhile- her photo is there, which would be worth making a mental note of for all in the neighborhood. Anyone who thinks that it’s acceptable to walk around a home and try the doors while doing so with a guy who skateboards around Idyllwild definitely has the kind of judgement that would mean trouble.
Dawn & Jacob, this is definitely worth reporting to the Sheriff- they really do want to know about incidents like this. Though nothing came from it, they do want to have a heads up about the people in town that are involved in this kind of stuff- it helps them in the long run in watching for the bad guys around Idyllwild. Call the Sheriff’s non-emergency line at: 909.776.1099, then press 5 to get to the dispatcher. Tell them you have a report you’d like to make regarding a recent attempted break-in. It may take some time for them to arrive (there’s soooo much for them to do in this area these days), and it might take a second call to get them there, but they will likely eventually show up and take a report.
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John Jacobs
Pine Crest – Riverside County Playground Rd. Neighborhood Watch
Idyllwild, California 92549
888-522-9001
www.pinecrestwatch.org
Dawn Papaila
May 16, 2022, 11:16:18 AM
Hi Jacob,
I’ll call the sheriff. And I agree with everyone’s sentiments and really appreciate Genevieve’s list of red flags. 🙂
Dawn
jasrhume
May 16, 2022, 12:13:00 PM
Hi Dawn and Jacob,
I took a look on Facebook to find a Marcia Pennington who lives in Idyllwild.
The attached picture showed up.
As you know, Charlotte and I regularly get some exercise doing circuits around the park.
We believe this is a photo of a lady we have seen more than once walking through the park.
The last time we saw her she was looking in the trash cans. That was about 2 weeks ago.
Jacob,
Is this the woman you escorted off Dawn and Dan’s property?
— James Hume
Jacob Booher
May 16, 2022, 12:19:45 PM
Yes it is.